a woman’s place and doctrines of demons {part 3 of 3, GUEST POST}

{There is a younger generation rising up. And with all force of the Holy Spirit they speak boldly. This post is one of those voices crying from the wilderness. To keep from focusing on the writer, this person prefered a new name for the blog. Paz, who is born the first time somewhat reserved; born again as a dedicated temple of an outspoken Holy Spirit.}

I have discussed the “help” part of the famous passage in Genesis where God created Eve; now let’s talk about the second word, “meet*for*him”.

I read an author once who pointed out that if God had not added the qualifier “meet*for*him” after the “help”, we would be refuting a false doctrine today that said women should be in charge of men, instead of the other way around.

By saying “meet*for*him,” God put a qualifier of equality on the first woman.  Even though the very powerful “help” word was used to define her role, she was not created superior to the man.

“Meet*for*him” is a single word that means a part opposite, specifically a counterpartThe best picture of this word is the illustration of a coin.  Which face of a coin is superior?  Although there are two faces to a coin, there is still only one coin.

The female is the opposite, yet completely equal and compatible face of the coin to the male.  Because you cannot see the two faces of a coin at the same time, they are separate; but neither face is “half” a coin – they are both simply expressions of “the coin.”

To really drive this picture home to humanity, God waited to make Eve.  Now, I don’t believe that God made Adam, looked at him, and then decided, “Oops, I guess I forgot something.”  God made male and female together and called them “good”.  He then took Eve out of Adam, leaving only the male behind as He separated out the female. 

Before separating out Eve, the “man” word used to describe Adam is the “humankind” type word.  But the phrase Adam speaks, saying Eve was “taken out of man” uses a new word, one specifically referring to a husband or male.  They were now separate.

By waiting to create the female in this way, God forever settled the issue of equality.  How could they be of different value or rank when they occupied the same body/flesh and were given the same instructions to exercise dominion on the earth before God separated them?

Another reason I believe God chose to create female in the way that He did was because His plan was always that they be joined, that they be one.  You cannot join two living things that are not a match.  In the same way that your body will reject an organ not its own, a man and a woman can only be joined as one because they originally were one.

There are still people who will argue that, although of course men and women are equal in value, they have very different roles.

I have found, however, that many of these role differences are based upon a distinct tier system where women rank beneath men and therefore occupy roles that are beneath and subordinate to men’s roles.

Where the rules of different human relationships are addressed by the apostle Paul and others in the New Testament, including those concerning husbands and wives, they are not complicated.

Believers are commanded to prefer other believers above themselves.  They are commanded to submit one to another.  Husbands are commanded to submit to their wives and wives are commanded to submit to their husbands.

Submission is the mutual service and love lived among equals.  Our pattern is to be the submission exhibited among the Trinity Jesus submits Himself to the Father, even though He also calls Himself equal to the Father and One with Him.  The Holy Spirit submits Himself to Jesus, taking of what is Jesus’, given to Him by the Father, and sharing it with us, the Body.  And again, the Holy Spirit is still One with, and equal to, the Father and the Son both.

In the famous Ephesian “submission passage” where Paul addresses husbands and wives for a portion of the letter, talking about submission and joining as one,  it is interesting to note that he concludes that section by saying “This is a great mystery, but I speak concerning Christ and the church.”

If we take the Trinity as our example, mutual submission is a key, if not the key, component of being able to truly become one.  Saying vows does not make you one with your husband or your wife.  A husband and wife truly becoming joined together as one is a mystery; and it is a pattern given to us to help us as humans better grasp what the Father has planned for the Son and His Bride.

A couple of other things to note in conclusion:

Children are commanded to obey their parents, and servants are commanded to obey their masters.  Nowhere are wives commanded to obey their husbands, nor are husbands commanded to obey their wives. 

This should give us a big clue that the hierarchical relationship between children and parents and between servants and masters should not be present between husbands and wives.

Paul also says that in the spirit there is neither male nor female.  Should we not be in the spirit in church of all places? And if we are without male or female labels in the spirit, why are those labels applied in churches when it comes to doing spiritual work?

The refuting of every wrong doctrine about women and an exposition of the full extent of their freedoms in the Christ Jesus is not the purpose of this post.  Such a discussion would (and has) filled many books.  The purpose of this series of posts is simply to lay a foundation of truth.  Now go build on it.

If you find you are having trouble making the doctrines you have been taught about men, women, their roles, and their “place” fit with what you have read here, go do some searching with the Holy Spirit.

Let God be proven true and every man a liar.


About Geneva

The road in my rear view mirror is marked by hard places. My Guide has been faithful. He came into my life and I was branded. Marked. Labeled. Ridiculed. Judged. Stoned. But the road ahead always looks grand and full of light! The furnaces from the past have only caused the fire of His Spirit to burn hotter. The edicts of man have tried many times to make me bend in worship to him, yet I have met the true Flame who delivers me in every furnace!
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